Kenyon 200 Free Relay...

[DonCheadle]

Sommers and Turk had the spots nailed down so Kenyon had 4 guys, Ramsey, Withington, Mpitsos and Ohning swim prelims of the relay competing for the final 2 spots. Mpitsos and Ohning won the spots fair and square, but looking over the results I wonder if the relay would have been faster with Withington. He went out in 20.39 on the 400 medley (to his feet). Both Mpitsos and Ohning split 19.85 on the relay...Oh well we'll neve really know.

[openwater]

May be a one year record with all 4 of those guys coming back - take it into the 1:18s.

[wakeboarder540]

Oh, wow. Good for Kenyon.

I remember during one of the sessions after the NCAA meet last year, 2009, some Kenyon alumni almost got in a fight with some of the U of M swimmers. Those almuni should be glad no fight broke out, they would have gotten the shit kicked out of them. Anyway, the argument started as how the alumni thought that Kenyon would still win, or at least compete well, at d1 nats. The U of M team responded with Kenyon not being able to score a point at the meet. Sounds like the d1 athletes were wrong, shocker.

[silentp]

Oh, wow. Good for Kenyon.

I remember during one of the sessions after the NCAA meet last year, 2009, some Kenyon alumni almost got in a fight with some of the U of M swimmers. Those almuni should be glad no fight broke out, they would have gotten the shit kicked out of them. Anyway, the argument started as how the alumni thought that Kenyon would still win, or at least compete well, at d1 nats. The U of M team responded with Kenyon not being able to score a point at the meet. Sounds like the d1 athletes were wrong, shocker.

Actually, Kenyon's relay wouldn't have made the meet, so no, they wouldn't have scored a point at the meet.

[screeeeeeeeech]

haha pwnd

[RhymeAndReason]

Kenyon alumni's thought they would win DI NCAA's? Or compete really well (say, top 8?)?

Delusional. Not with the teams they have.

On the other hand, if they had 9.9 scholarships, I bet they would be right up there.

[NCACDork]

Oh, wow. Good for Kenyon.

I remember during one of the sessions after the NCAA meet last year, 2009, some Kenyon alumni almost got in a fight with some of the U of M swimmers. Those almuni should be glad no fight broke out, they would have gotten the shit kicked out of them. Anyway, the argument started as how the alumni thought that Kenyon would still win, or at least compete well, at d1 nats. The U of M team responded with Kenyon not being able to score a point at the meet. Sounds like the d1 athletes were wrong, shocker.

As a Kenyon grad from MN who has a lot of MN swimmer friends (past and present), and who was at every session of the meet, I would like to question that story. Most KC guys would not talk about that, and I don't think any MN swimmers would give a shit.

Also, why are D1 guys automatically so much tougher just because they are faster swimmers? The toughest kid on the MN team right now is Zach Weis, but you would never guess it by looking at him, and he is not the fastest swimmer on the team either.

[caveman12]

Oh, wow. Good for Kenyon.

I remember during one of the sessions after the NCAA meet last year, 2009, some Kenyon alumni almost got in a fight with some of the U of M swimmers. Those almuni should be glad no fight broke out, they would have gotten the shit kicked out of them. Anyway, the argument started as how the alumni thought that Kenyon would still win, or at least compete well, at d1 nats. The U of M team responded with Kenyon not being able to score a point at the meet. Sounds like the d1 athletes were wrong, shocker.

As a Kenyon grad from MN who has a lot of MN swimmer friends (past and present), and who was at every session of the meet, I would like to question that story. Most KC guys would not talk about that, and I don't think any MN swimmers would give a shit.

Also, why are D1 guys automatically so much tougher just because they are faster swimmers? The toughest kid on the MN team right now is Zach Weis, but you would never guess it by looking at him, and he is not the fastest swimmer on the team either.

I heard this story, too. The meeting took place at Sally's after a night of drinking, alcohol does some crazy things to people.

I definitely would never mess with Zach Weis, glad I'm not on his bad side. But, I don't see what him not being one of the fastest swimmers on the team has anything to do with him being tough. Georges St. Pierre is one tough dude, and he is no swimmer, he'd probably sink.

[NCACDork]

My point has to do with the fact that people always seem to assume that D1 swimmers are extremely hardcore, and I THINK some of that might have to do with the fact that they are fast swimmers - which, as you also pointed out, is false logic. See: Post #3, where the assumption is that the Kenyon guys would have gotten their asses kicked. If Massura had been there, then maybe. Otherwise not a fair assumption.

[Colbybr]

As a coach of a fairly high level D1 program and former D3 swimmer, I can tell you that the primary difference between D1 and D3 swimmers is talent.

[Chris Knight]

As a coach of a fairly high level D1 program and former D3 swimmer, I can tell you that the primary difference between D1 and D3 swimmers is talent.

Not wit? Damn.

[Colbybr]

Definitely, definitely, not wit.

[Mac of the MIAC]

This sounds like the best slap fight ever.